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		<title>Ruby on Rails&#8230; Revisited</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Updated with links and a couple typo corrections. I&#8217;ve been working on a fairly big Web site project lately. My partner and I initially decided to use Django to build the site, mainly because I&#8217;m a Python &#8220;expert&#8221; and Django &#8230; <a href="http://wyattbaldwin.com/2008/04/04/ruby-on-rails-revisited/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Updated with links and a couple typo corrections.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a fairly big Web site project lately. My partner and I initially decided to use <a title="Django Python Web Framework" href="http://www.djangoproject.com/">Django</a> to build the site, mainly because I&#8217;m a <a title="Python programming language" href="http://python.org/">Python</a> &#8220;expert&#8221; and Django is (apparently) the #1 Python Web framework. We were also lured by the easy admin interface.</p>
<p>After trying to use Django and not really enjoying it, I tried switching to <a title="Pylons Python Web Framework" href="http://pylonshq.com/">Pylons</a> because I&#8217;ve had a good amount of experience with it in the building of <a title="byCycle bicycle trip planner / route finder" href="http://bycycle.org/">byCycle.org</a>. It&#8217;s gone through two fairly major releases since then, and so have a bunch of the libraries that tend to get used with it, like <a title="SQLAlchemy Python database library" href="http://sqlalchemy.org/">SQLAlchemy</a>, <a title="Elixir Python Active Record library" href="http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/wiki">Elixir</a>, etc.</p>
<p>I was having a hard time with the Pylons docs, and so I ended screwing around with <a title="Grok Python Web framework" href="http://grok.zope.org/">Grok</a> (which actually looks fairly interesting) and even took a look at the <a title="Zope 3 Python Web framework" href="http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope3Wiki">Zope 3</a> site. I&#8217;m sure Zope is really awesome or whatever, but it might as well suck. Every time I look at that site, I&#8217;m just like &#8220;WTF! This shit has been around for like five years!&#8221; Anyway, I might just not be smart enough for Zope.</p>
<p>This led us back toward <a title="Ruby on Rails Web framework" href="http://rubyonrails.org/">Rails</a> (even if <a title="Rails is a ghetto?" href="http://www.zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html">it is a ghetto</a>). I used Rails a bit last year but never did anything too serious with it. Diving into it today was quite a pleasure. There are issues to be sure, but overall I&#8217;m enjoying it <em>by far</em> over any of the other options we had tried. I&#8217;m also enjoying learning/relearning <a title="Ruby programming language" href="http://www.ruby-lang.org/">Ruby</a>.</p>
<p>If Pylons had good docs, we&#8217;d probably be using that.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t know if this is a particularly useful post, since I didn&#8217;t get into much in the way of reasons (what, i have back this up?!). This subject&#8217;s been hashed and rehashed, but I just wanted (<em>needed</em>) to make a qualitative statement about my/our experience, which, of course, is purely personal.</p>
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